S1E4 - Jon Hand - Life and practice after a spiritual stroke

What you give out cannot exceed what you take in. On this episode, Doug and J.R look at some random stuff in J.R.’s office and talk about gumball machines, oxygen masks, and healthy rhythms. Our guest this week is Pastor Jon Hand, and our honest conversation goes into the pressure of ministry, nervous breakdown, and coming to a healthy space. Have you ever felt the weight of the mantle of Pastor? Have you ever experienced a spiritual stroke? Have you ever beat yourself up? Jon has wisdom for those who have experienced the weight of ministry and has some beautifully simple, yet deeply powerful, practices and encouragement for us all.

Resources from Episode 4


On a scale of 1 – 10 (1 being not good, 10 being great) how would you assess your health right now in the spiritual, physical, emotional, relational, mental, and vocational?

How would your spouse, elder, staff, friend, assess you?

How would you move that up the scale one or two points up in the next season?

Where are you thriving? Where are you struggling? What’s confusing? What’s missing?

The Inner Compass:

Draw a compass rose—North, South, East, West.

North - guiding light – Where does my faith in Christ need to deepen? Who loves me deeply? Who guides me?

South – Internal longing – What do I long to do or become in this season? where do I need to experience Joy and delight?

East – Rising sun - What or who do I need to welcome? What unique season is on the horizon I need to embrace.

West – Setting sun - What do I need to release or let go of? Where might I need healing?


J.R. is giving away 25 copies of his book, Fail: Finding Hope and Grace in the Midst of Ministry Failure to the first 25 people who write a review on our itunes page. To get a free copy of J.R.’s book, all you need to do is write a review, and then email Jane@Kairospartnerships.org your address and we will get it out to you.

If you have any questions, comments, or thoughts for the show drop us a line, voice mail or smoke signal at dougmoister@gmail.com. We are a new podcast so we ask you to make sure to subscribe, write a review, and share this with other pastors and ministry leaders. We hope to see the MMP community grow.

Joel Limbauan